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« on: August 13, 2007, 04:01:53 AM »

http://rudyaniceto.wordpress.com/2007/08/02/elder-unfriendly-philippine-airlinesof the story Link to the source

In case you are in the mood to say your piece or inquire with PAL regarding Mr. & Mrs. Aniceto's ordeal here is PAL's contact details:

Customer Relations
1st Floor Philippine Airlines Center
Legazpi Street, Legaspi Village
Makati City 0750
Tel : (632) 816-4302/ 816-1358/817-2844/818-4582(632) 818-0111 loc 5223/5261/5321
Fax : (632) 894-3930
e-mail : wecare@pal.com.ph



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FYI, I am Rodolfo D. Aniceto (72 years old) from Pampanga. I am related to his Most Rev. Paciano B. Aniceto, DD. We are holding GUM/MNL/GUM ticket. Ako po ay na off load last 28 July 2007 from Manila. My wife and I traveled together. She is a handicap passenger and on wheelchair with catheter. She underwent cataract surgery two weeks back.


My It's about experience started when I check-in at 730pm for GUM and your staff NING said that I cannot be boarded because I hold a non-revenue ticket as they are only accepting revenue passengers without any other reason but that. I told her what PAL Guam office told me that I will not encounter any problem and my booking was ok and confirmed with seat assignments but she would not hear me as she said they do not honor anything from Guam. I even have it my booking reconfirmed. I asked for her complete name but she refused to answer me. She just told me that I cannot be boarded that's all. She was affront rude and disrespectful. She asked me to get out of the line and wait if I want. She can check-in my incapacitated wife can be boarded without any problem.


Why is your staff overly rude and disrespectful? We waited until the closure of the counter for Guam. Unfortunately, we were not taken in for consideration and compassion. We were not minded at all. The porter brought us to counter 13 for the reschedule for the following day. They gave us a gift of rebooking NUF free. Was it my problem to get into this dilemma? Your staff at counter 13 shouted and told me that her transaction will be long and we cannot wait for her. It was good thing that the guy occupying counter 11 observed what has happened and called us to assist and help. He gave us sorry head shake when I said I was off-loaded for no valid explanation except that I am a non-revenue ticket holder. That was already 10pm. We did not have our dinner and my pitiful wife was so stressed out and hungry. My problem was where the hell will we stay and rest until your 10:20pm flight for the following day? Throbbing pain and anger ang feeling ko for the inconsideration you gave my wife and me. We finally ate at 2am.


I did not ask and begged for the ticket. I won the promo and in our excitement we decided to buy another for my wife and what a presumably happy homecoming experience turned out be a miserable incident. Had I known that I will be overly bothered using the ticket they awarded me - I will refuse the free travel outright.


We do not deserve your appalling treatment.

The following day your customer relations officers (duty officer should be helping pax like me at 6am)but was never available. Only the guards were there. Where are they? The Guards are your customer relations officers as they feed and keep giving me numbers to call (879-5698/5916/5918/5917/5920/8558000) that are neither working or a fax phone or just ringing.


Finally at 930am, someone answered and handed it to a certain Rene Reyes, who talked to me and said that I cannot be boarded as the flight was over booked and my priority is PD8 meaning that my ticket is bookable but can be off loaded anytime without any notice. If I want to be boarded I need to change my priority code to N with the VP and that will be very hard, she said. And will still wait til Monday.
I was also advise that my wife was off-loaded due to an immigration problem and the counter people were the only ones who knew about it. How can that be possible, we never had the chance to reach the Immigration due to my outright bumped off. She was not off-loaded in the first place. She is incapacitated and will need someone to assist her to go the Immigration.


Why all these problems cropped up and presumed when it was just a plain classic case of an unexplained off-loading a promo winner of a non-rev ticket? Very good Advertisement.


FYI, we are green card holders and her passport expires in 2011 and our documents are inorder.


We are poor elderly passengers but we are not beggars to be push around the way you did to my wife and me.


This is a pitiful and deplorable experience for someone who housed and accommodated your staff out of kindness for months (Agnes Buenaventura and another male person from your PAL Sales office in Manila) from an unknown environment years ago when they were assigned in Guam without any compensation.


Why is respect for elders out-dated and obsolete?


Are your staff foreign to compassion and consideration?


Are these the kind of high-tech training they get now?


The slogan "It's about experience" that you are very proud to claim was made sure was done to us.


Mine will be My Pal's Pathetic Experience (MYPalPAc EX).


I know you will do nothing about my My Pal's Pathetic Experience.


Now I know that your airline represents mga PINOY na mayabang at bastos (egoistic and uncouth) and your airline is elder-unfriendly. You made us feel that we are nothing. That you do not need our business. Ayaw ninyo ng bother na walang monetary na kapalit (You don't serve people without monetary compensation) . You all do not believe in respect and sincerity.


Kaya nga "It's about experience". Good or bad it's still about experience.


Bastos kayo! (You are rude!) Wala kayong (You have no) respect. You have no regard for the elderly.May you experience the extreme thoughtlessness and insensitivity you provided my wife.


CAPITAL BASTOS (rude) kayo MGA TAGA PHILIPPINE AIRLINES.


I REFUSE TO BE A FILIPINO KUNG KASAMA KO KAYO MGA TAGA (to be identified with you) PHILIPPINE AIRLINES.
NAKAKAHIYA KAYO! (SHAME ON YOU!)


I will refuse PAL TICKET UNTIL I die.


Thank you and GOD Bless!


Rodolfo D. Aniceto
I am listed in Guam directory.
Promo Winner / Whiner




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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2007, 04:26:02 AM »

PAL

Plane Always Late yan na yun bago nila slogan
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2007, 12:36:07 PM »

Grabe talaga ang PAL staff as rude is concern... Angry

Meron din po akong experience dyan na ipahiya ako in front ng maraming tao just becuase of my excess luggage...Im just begging to allow my excess 1 and half kls of baggage... SUPERVISOR pa naman siya naturingan hindi manlang marunong magsalita ng maayos!!!SIGAWAN ba naman ako na 'OFFLOAD KITA KAPAG HINDI MO BINAWASAN YANG HAND CARRY MO"!!!!!!! imaging sa harap ng maraming tao!!! at nagtinginan tuloy cla sa akin na para ba akong may ginawang masama!!!! HELLLLLLOOOOO registered OFW po ako nho....at may complete papers...hindi ang excess baggage ang mag papa offload sakin!!!

Kaya tuloy sa sobrang napahiya ako nagtatakbo ako palabas ng umiiyak at tinapon ung excess ng baggage ko...since that day cnumpa ko na hinding hindi na ako sasakay sa PAL.....that was 5 yrs ago at talagang hindi po ako sumakay sa airline na un kahit na nagkaroon pa cla ng promotion fare...
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2007, 12:52:43 AM »

@ simplydbest; i'm assuming sa pinas airport to nangyari.napaka walang modo naman nun supervisor na sumigaw sa u.talking about customer service.

pero sana inexercise mo yun right mo as an ofw and a filipino,minsan kase sa mga yan dapat masindak now i really do believe na ang pinas airport di lang pal ang trato sa mga passengers ay criminal.kase sobra nila scrutinize yun mga byahero.imagine them asking details such as "may pera ka ba;magkano san mo kinuha"
       kung ano man organization pwede magpabago nito please do so.di lahat ng na byahe terrorista.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2007, 02:14:43 AM »

Grabe talaga ang PAL staff as rude is concern... Angry

Meron din po akong experience dyan na ipahiya ako in front ng maraming tao just becuase of my excess luggage...Im just begging to allow my excess 1 and half kls of baggage... SUPERVISOR pa naman siya naturingan hindi manlang marunong magsalita ng maayos!!!SIGAWAN ba naman ako na 'OFFLOAD KITA KAPAG HINDI MO BINAWASAN YANG HAND CARRY MO"!!!!!!! imaging sa harap ng maraming tao!!! at nagtinginan tuloy cla sa akin na para ba akong may ginawang masama!!!! HELLLLLLOOOOO registered OFW po ako nho....at may complete papers...hindi ang excess baggage ang mag papa offload sakin!!!

Kaya tuloy sa sobrang napahiya ako nagtatakbo ako palabas ng umiiyak at tinapon ung excess ng baggage ko...since that day cnumpa ko na hinding hindi na ako sasakay sa PAL.....that was 5 yrs ago at talagang hindi po ako sumakay sa airline na un kahit na nagkaroon pa cla ng promotion fare...

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2007, 10:17:14 AM »

Grabe talaga ang PAL staff as rude is concern... Angry

Meron din po akong experience dyan na ipahiya ako in front ng maraming tao just becuase of my excess luggage...Im just begging to allow my excess 1 and half kls of baggage... SUPERVISOR pa naman siya naturingan hindi manlang marunong magsalita ng maayos!!!SIGAWAN ba naman ako na 'OFFLOAD KITA KAPAG HINDI MO BINAWASAN YANG HAND CARRY MO"!!!!!!! imaging sa harap ng maraming tao!!! at nagtinginan tuloy cla sa akin na para ba akong may ginawang masama!!!! HELLLLLLOOOOO registered OFW po ako nho....at may complete papers...hindi ang excess baggage ang mag papa offload sakin!!!

Kaya tuloy sa sobrang napahiya ako nagtatakbo ako palabas ng umiiyak at tinapon ung excess ng baggage ko...since that day cnumpa ko na hinding hindi na ako sasakay sa PAL.....that was 5 yrs ago at talagang hindi po ako sumakay sa airline na un kahit na nagkaroon pa cla ng promotion fare...

Simply the best, san ito? Thailand airport or Manila airport?


Manila obviously, unless Don Mueang has Pinay staff manning the PAL ticket & baggage counter.



Off Topic, but related to the general attitude shown above...and more:
 
there's this one time while i was eating in a lan nuea young gao li (korean bbq shop), i overheard a farang seated in the next table recounting his ordeal in Manila to his fellow tourists, said he was harrassed for $$ by the guards at the airport, then was later duped by a cab driver!  he observed that Filipinos are the most disrespectful, arrogant, deceitful, full of guile people he's met in his entire life and that Manila is a shit hole, a crumbling 4th world city, dirty, overcrowded bursting in the seams, full of beggars, slums, the poverty and lack sanitation is appalling, the food was hog feed, his visit was a waste of time and money, he didn't see any culture at all, etc., etc. blah blah blah...this one stuck in my mind - he's been to hell and glad to be back in paradise, STAY AWAY!  i can walk the streets of Mukdahan or Savannakhet in Lao without any fear for my safety, whereas in Manila i felt danger in every second. 

i felt so sad and embarassed...have we gone this low, as a people?  as a country? 
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2007, 10:25:44 AM »

Grabe talaga ang PAL staff as rude is concern... Angry

Meron din po akong experience dyan na ipahiya ako in front ng maraming tao just becuase of my excess luggage...Im just begging to allow my excess 1 and half kls of baggage... SUPERVISOR pa naman siya naturingan hindi manlang marunong magsalita ng maayos!!!SIGAWAN ba naman ako na 'OFFLOAD KITA KAPAG HINDI MO BINAWASAN YANG HAND CARRY MO"!!!!!!! imaging sa harap ng maraming tao!!! at nagtinginan tuloy cla sa akin na para ba akong may ginawang masama!!!! HELLLLLLOOOOO registered OFW po ako nho....at may complete papers...hindi ang excess baggage ang mag papa offload sakin!!!

Kaya tuloy sa sobrang napahiya ako nagtatakbo ako palabas ng umiiyak at tinapon ung excess ng baggage ko...since that day cnumpa ko na hinding hindi na ako sasakay sa PAL.....that was 5 yrs ago at talagang hindi po ako sumakay sa airline na un kahit na nagkaroon pa cla ng promotion fare...

Simply the best, san ito? Thailand airport or Manila airport?


Manila obviously, unless Don Mueang has Pinay staff manning the PAL ticket & baggage counter.



Off Topic, but related to the general attitude shown above...and more:
 
there's this one time while i was eating in a lan nuea young gao li (korean bbq shop), i overheard a farang seated in the next table recounting his ordeal in Manila to his fellow tourists, said he was harrassed for $$ by the guards at the airport, then was later duped by a cab driver!  he observed that Filipinos are the most disrespectful, arrogant, deceitful, full of guile people he's met in his entire life and that Manila is a shit hole, a crumbling 4th world city, dirty, overcrowded bursting in the seams, full of beggars, slums, the poverty and lack sanitation is appalling, the food was hog feed, his visit was a waste of time and money, he didn't see any culture at all, etc., etc. blah blah blah...this one stuck in my mind - he's been to hell and glad to be back in paradise, STAY AWAY!  i can walk the streets of Mukdahan or Savannakhet in Lao without any fear for my safety, whereas in Manila i felt danger in every second. 

i felt so sad and embarassed...have we gone this low, as a people?  as a country? 


you're right keyser.that was a dumb question, i shouldk know cause i know the guy who supervise PAL and i met him before and most likely hindi sya ggawa or iimik ng ganun. as for PAL Manager in Bangkok. she is a good person also. very approachable.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2007, 10:49:12 AM »

that's alright bro...hey, there's no such thing as a dumb question as the chairperson in our Partnering Workshop always says. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2007, 12:00:59 PM »

@ defect; the only dumb question is the un asked question.

keyser soze don't believe in every farang story.they always bad mouth about something kung di na justify yun expenses nila.this happen to me blah blah blah;got ripped off buy the cab blah blah,bar fines too high blah blah but hey u know what u can never please everybody..
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2007, 06:42:32 AM »

Grabe talaga ang PAL staff as rude is concern... Angry

Meron din po akong experience dyan na ipahiya ako in front ng maraming tao just becuase of my excess luggage...Im just begging to allow my excess 1 and half kls of baggage... SUPERVISOR pa naman siya naturingan hindi manlang marunong magsalita ng maayos!!!SIGAWAN ba naman ako na 'OFFLOAD KITA KAPAG HINDI MO BINAWASAN YANG HAND CARRY MO"!!!!!!! imaging sa harap ng maraming tao!!! at nagtinginan tuloy cla sa akin na para ba akong may ginawang masama!!!! HELLLLLLOOOOO registered OFW po ako nho....at may complete papers...hindi ang excess baggage ang mag papa offload sakin!!!

Kaya tuloy sa sobrang napahiya ako nagtatakbo ako palabas ng umiiyak at tinapon ung excess ng baggage ko...since that day cnumpa ko na hinding hindi na ako sasakay sa PAL.....that was 5 yrs ago at talagang hindi po ako sumakay sa airline na un kahit na nagkaroon pa cla ng promotion fare...

Simply the best, san ito? Thailand airport or Manila airport?

Sa Manila airport un nangyari ... ang sa akin lang naman e ung sana nagsalita siya ng maayos diba?..
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2007, 06:51:01 AM »

manila is the next DARFUR.  oh my God.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2007, 06:21:01 AM »

When, I went home last 2005 sa Pinas, unfortunately eh sa PAL ako nasakay. Indeed, they live to their slogan PAL plane na always late..late lang naman siya ng 1 hr!..At lahat kami chinecheck ang hand carry..ang dami kong nakita na pinabawasan yung hand carry..Saan naman nila dadalhin yun eh nasa waiting lounge na kami lahat..Saan ba napupunta yung mga naunload mo na excess baggage? Nde naman nila maisisik pa yun sa luggage mo na nakacheck in!

Isa pa, a friend of mine is willing to apply for OFW card sa centennial terminal. Ang sabi lang naman sa kanya eh sa NAIA daw siya mag apply at wala daw sila counter for OFW dun, kasi konti lang daw dumadaan na OFW dun. The worst pa eh hinold ang bagahe niya kasi baka daw nde siya makaalis, may visa at work permit kaya siya sa thailand kasi direct hire siya at nagbakasyon lang nung dec...gusto lang niya magkaroon ng OFW card.

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2007, 06:41:24 AM »

Ako ang na ha highblood sa sinapit ni Mr.Aniceto but i can't help but to give my sympathy.

Alam nyo sa atin di kayo dapat nakkuha sa sindak nila dahil kakainin kayo ng buhay ng mga yan.Di ko naman sinasabing magtaray ka pero kung kinakailangang gamitin para tumino yung kausap mu e di bakit ang hindi.As long as na legal ang flight mu,nothing to worry.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2007, 02:45:52 AM »

isa sa mga dahilan kung bkit konte n lang ang mga turista s pinas. kung tutuusin walang panama s ganda ang thailand kumpara sa Pinas. kaso it's too dangerous daw magtravel s pinas. pari nga e nakidnap, at yung volunteer n babae ba naka2long s mga pinoy nirape at pinatay. asus kumalat n s buong mundo ata na ang pinas ay pugad ng mga manyakis at mamamatay tao. nakakalungkot talga.
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2007, 12:18:16 PM »

kelangan siguro ng pinas ng magandang slogan gaya ng iba't ibang asian countries

"amazing thailand"

"malaysia truly asia"

"korea sparkling"

PHILIPPINES-KIDNAP/RAPE FREE COUNTRY


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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2007, 01:26:21 PM »

Merong Slogan ang Phil ah

WOW Philippines!

Sir joe pakibigyan nga ng meaning ang WOW. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2008, 02:22:25 PM »

Old thread, bumping/topping to update.

Grabe, now ko lang nabasa ang kwento ni Mr. Aniceto sa kamay ng PAL glorified counter people. Sobra, sobra talaga, pati ba naman ang matatanda eh wala silang pakundangang apihin ng ganito? Wheelchair bound pa yung isa. Tsk tsk tsk!

Of course predictably, mag-iisue ang PAL ng palliative na apology, "sorry for the inconvenience, blah blah blah, isolated incident, dah dah dah, talk to the personnel, blah blah blah, give us full name, time, date, counter no. che che che, re-assigned elsewhere". Ang tutoo niyan, wala silang pakialam, at baka nagtawanan pa sila over a cup of overpriced coffee sa iStarbak. Sorry to all Fil-Chinese everywhere [inlcuding myself], but as business owners, they are not known for their superior customer service nor for ergonomicaly sound facilities. It's always about the bottom-line and cutting corners to make a profit.

I really really like using NAIA/Centennial, pero dahil sa kwentong ito, di na ako sasakay sa PAL. Anyway, sobrang mahal ng tiket nila.

Caveat: Shouldn't this story be verified?
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2008, 11:23:07 AM »

last april i went home via PAL, i've tried different airlines in the past years. ok naman services nila, pabalik, i was with my lola, papaissue ko pa lang yong ticket nya sa ticket office, pero pinayagan na rin kaming pumasok sa lobby, doon ko muna siya pinaupo while i rushed to the ticket office, nainis lang ako kasi binigyan ako ng cue ticket 100+ away sa number na nalagay sa monitor, but i went directly to the express lane, i told the staff i am travelling with an elderly, issue naman agad ang ticket. back to the lobby, checkin and boarding eh ok naman, medyo na late ang take off for few minutes, pero nakakatouch kasi inantay ata yong connecting flight galing ng southern, at yong mga nag board ay grupo ng mga youth of several nationalities siguro galing sa isang camp/ or field trip, sa pagmamadali yong iba bitbit na ang mga rubber shoes, na pinaalis sa xray area.

sa pagbalik naman ni lola eh wala na siyang kasabay, my cousin informed a PAL staff here in Bangkok, at 100 percent pro-elderly ang treatment  kay lola, may naghatid sa kanya 'til the plane and in the phils. may sumundo sa kanya from the airport gate hatid siya hanggang arrival area, where my mom and dad waited. sabi ni lola, she felt VIP daw. and the good thing is that wala pong service fee.
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2008, 07:59:43 AM »

you are lucky, khun_a, that your ticket was bought with cold hard cash. doon sa kwento ni manong J,  winner yata ito ng promo ticket ng PAL yung 2 matanda? not sure, but that is the general drift of the story. kelangan bayarin ang taxes or some other holdap procedure ng company. this is not made clear to promo winners.
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