How can Filipino teachers find better jobs with more benefits in Thailand?

[Madam H]

Even non-teachers are welcome to post.

[maldita]

Im not a Teacher but base on my field(garments/textiles) madaming pwedeng pagpilian.Pwede kami sa Marketing (MR,Customer Services and Sales),QA,Sourcing,Development Engineer.Once na nagkaroon ka na ng experience sa mga nasabi ko pwede ka ng mag apply for Supervisor/Managerial positions.Sa Garments/textiles Industry naman kasi maliit lang ang mundo so kung maganda ang performance mu nag si circulate yan sa mga buyers/customers so pag nagkaroon ng mas magandang opportunity pwede kang mag apply sa kanila or minsan sila na mismo ang nag pa pirate sayo.About Benefits ussually naman eh kasli ang
free housing or allowance
Yearly Bonus (sometimes they will give you 1-3 months of your monthly salary amount)
Yearly Increase
Free Air Tickets to Phils 2 way (pwedeng every year or every 2 years)
Mobile Allowance ( not all Company but you can insist especially if you're sales)
Health Insurance
Travel Insurance(everytime na lalabas ka ng bansa dapat compulsary yun especially business matter)
Travel Expenses
Company Car (this will depends on your position)
So far 7 ang nakuha kong benefits mula sa sinabi ko.

mahirap din sa Pinoy na makakuha ng job sa Garments/textile dito sa Thailand kasi halos 60-70% ng Thai eh nasa field ng garments/textile.Kaya dapt talagang well experience ka at isipin mu lagi na ano yung meron tayong Pinoy na wala ang mga Thai /Native/Foreigner para i hire tayo ng Company/School.




 

[ms.a]

with the influx of supplies.... some schools are practicing take it or leave it policy... nakakasama lang ng loob kasi some really offer too low salary, without assistance sa mga fees ng visa, work permits... etc... since some filipinos have no choice, eh sige na rin.... basta give ur best shots.... pag nakita nila maganda performance mo... u can demand later.... improve ur personality din ( we're trained to be low profile but it neccessary na taas noo tayo with them)... my mentor before told me when ur talking with others, ur shoulders should be balanced, sa pananamit naman, let's see to it that we look like professionals not like as if  going to the market ( kahit sa UK lang yan nabili or 99 baht) nasa tamang pagdadala yan. and most important.... have a technical and  educational upgrading, kasi pag may masters unit ka or degree ur one step advance.

[Madam H]

Im not a Teacher but base on my field(garments/textiles) madaming pwedeng pagpilian.Pwede kami sa Marketing (MR,Customer Services and Sales),QA,Sourcing,Development Engineer.Once na nagkaroon ka na ng experience sa mga nasabi ko pwede ka ng mag apply for Supervisor/Managerial positions.Sa Garments/textiles Industry naman kasi maliit lang ang mundo so kung maganda ang performance mu nag si circulate yan sa mga buyers/customers so pag nagkaroon ng mas magandang opportunity pwede kang mag apply sa kanila or minsan sila na mismo ang nag pa pirate sayo.About Benefits ussually naman eh kasli ang
free housing or allowance
Yearly Bonus (sometimes they will give you 1-3 months of your monthly salary amount)
Yearly Increase
Free Air Tickets to Phils 2 way (pwedeng every year or every 2 years)
Mobile Allowance ( not all Company but you can insist especially if you're sales)
Health Insurance
Travel Insurance(everytime na lalabas ka ng bansa dapat compulsary yun especially business matter)
Travel Expenses
Company Car (this will depends on your position)
So far 7 ang nakuha kong benefits mula sa sinabi ko.

mahirap din sa Pinoy na makakuha ng job sa Garments/textile dito sa Thailand kasi halos 60-70% ng Thai eh nasa field ng garments/textile.Kaya dapt talagang well experience ka at isipin mu lagi na ano yung meron tayong Pinoy na wala ang mga Thai /Native/Foreigner para i hire tayo ng Company/School.

Thanks a lot for these details! I'm sure this is going to be helpful for those Pinoys in your field to have as another tool in their job search in this area here in Thailand.

[Madam H]

with the influx of supplies.... some schools are practicing take it or leave it policy... nakakasama lang ng loob kasi some really offer too low salary, without assistance sa mga fees ng visa, work permits... etc... since some filipinos have no choice, eh sige na rin.... basta give ur best shots.... pag nakita nila maganda performance mo... u can demand later.... improve ur personality din ( we're trained to be low profile but it neccessary na taas noo tayo with them)... my mentor before told me when ur talking with others, ur shoulders should be balanced, sa pananamit naman, let's see to it that we look like professionals not like as if  going to the market ( kahit sa UK lang yan nabili or 99 baht) nasa tamang pagdadala yan. and most important.... have a technical and  educational upgrading, kasi pag may masters unit ka or degree ur one step advance.

I second the motion. We all have to start from somewhere. And although I do believe we Filipinos have a lot to offer more than the farang teachers or the Thais, or other Asians for that matter, sometimes, it will take time for our bosses or supervisors to see our worth and true value.

And it helps a lot to our advantage to have our best forward every single day we go to work. Yes, you have to learn to advertise for and market yourself. That is why it helps a lot to take to hear the things Anne has suggested here.

Thanks for posting your ideas, Anne!

[ajarn_ph]

i think, this is an unreachable dream. i have met non-Asian teachers come and go and come again to Thailand for the cost of living. reason: inexpensive.

[erick]

i think, this is an unreachable dream. i have met non-Asian teachers come and go and come again to Thailand for the cost of living. reason: inexpensive.

I think I'm lost...

please elaborate!

[ajarn_ph]

this is my view: there is not a school that gives more benefits to Filipino teachers and other Foreigners. Foreigners who know Thailand very well stay here because of the cost of living is not expensive. some of them and Fellow Pinoy who left come back again for good reason.

[erick]

this is my view: there is not a school that gives more benefits to Filipino teachers and other Foreigners. Foreigners who know Thailand very well stay here because of the cost of living is not expensive. some of them and Fellow Pinoy who left come back again for good reason.

Well, you are making a generalization based on your point of view (on your first statement).  And I think it's wrong.

[Madam H]

When you first come to Thailand, chances are, you have high hopes of getting a better salary than what you had back home. And if you don't know anyone, you are likely to grab the first "good" job that comes along, not wanting to "miss" an opportunity (if indeed it is one). Your gut feeling would tell you, just take the first offer that comes along, then you just find a better one once you are more established.

A friends of mine says, that we Filipinos love this word so much - "pakikipagsapalaran". Rough translation is, "forging ahead without really knowing what's out there, nor having any plans nor any information gathering prior to taking the first step". Isn't this what we always hear in soap operas back home??? (one big reason why our kids are not allowed to watch Pinoy soaps).

"Bahala na!" ... that's what it means, in short. I won't say it's pathetic (though it may well be). I just say, that's basically who most of us are, that's generally how we are all raised. And it may well take a few generations before such an attitude among all of us changes. Maybe, it even won't...change. Now, wouldn't that be sad?

Those of us who have moved from one job to another, and have gotten raises or better packages by doing so, I strongly believe there are ways... several...plenty...not just one. But it's not for everyone. It will happen to those who first believe!

We pride ourselves in being "strong believers" in our faiths. We value the quality of being hopeful. Yet, why are we so hesitant to BELIEVE things could get better? Why are we saying one thing, and then thinking another?

In the guest speaker's  words at the 2nd Filipino Educators' Conference held last March 16 at an international school in Minburi, she compared the Filipino Educators' search for "Empowerment", as an aspiration that is very much similar to the story of the Scarecrow, the Tin Man and the Lion in The Wizard of OZ!

She said, among the teachers she has worked with at the school, she couldn't find any other group of teachers more dedicated to their work than the Filipinos. Like the Tin Man, she told us we don't need to find our "heart", because it already is in us!

And in her capacity as Professional Development Director, she is the one who approves the teachers' requests for professional development. And she said, the Filipino teachers will be on top of the list of those who seek to become better professionals. That, in itself, she said is proof that we, after all, do have the "brains". And by being present at the conference, according to her, it was a testimony that just like the Scarecrow, we already have it!

Now, finally, here's our challenge...

The Lion in the story was "quite pathetic", according to the speaker. He was even afraid of his own shadow...We Filipinos show our courage in the teaching profession by standing up for the smallest among all of us - our students. However, most of us are not courageous enough to take leadership roles. Most of us, perhaps, are afraid of getting ridiculed... we care so much about what others say.

Perhaps we even tell ourselves, "Oh what's the use? It won't change anyway."

But how do we know it won't change, unless we have tried it?

Right there is the ambiguity of our BELIEFS! Yes, we like to be positive all the time. Great! But turning our eyes from TRUTHS, is not being positive. By not being realistic, we are only lying to ourselves. And who benefits from that? You, me, the Filipinos? Nobody...

So I would rather do something about it, and risk being laughed at if nothing comes out of it in the end. At least, in the end, I would be able to go to sleep in peace... rather than not do anything about it when there's a chance, and then forever be plagued at night by this question... "What if...?"

[ajarn_ph]

excuse me, i think Reply#8 is a sarcastic reply or opposite side of view. i answered your question in personal opinion.
 
i may be wrong and you may be right.

i will be very happy to know your own side of answer or anyone else answer to such inquiring question, "How can Filipino teachers find better jobs with more benefits in Thailand?"

[erick]

excuse me, i think Reply#8 is a sarcastic reply or opposite side of view. i answered your question in personal opinion.
 
i may be wrong and you may be right.

i will be very happy to know your own side of answer or anyone else answer to such inquiring question, "How can Filipino teachers find better jobs with more benefits in Thailand?"

My reply to your message is not sarcastic. I am simply pointing out the FALLACY of your statement:

there is not a school that gives more benefits to Filipino teachers and other Foreigners.

I should have asked you a specific question: HOW DID YOU KNOW?

In fairness, as you have requested...allow me to share my thoughts on the topic at hand ( based on facts and personal experiences)

"How can Filipino teachers find better jobs with more benefits in Thailand?"

1. Referrals -  People who know your capabilities can help you find better jobs with more benefits; thus it is important to make CONNECTIONS by attending workshops, trainings, conferences and/or even volunteering to Extra-curricular activities in that way people who are impressed of your skills can help you out.  ( I was able to work in the graduate school in one of the Rajabhats in the country as a guest lecturer  because I was recommended by people who know my capability and qualifications... )

2. Visit prospect schools - We know how difficult to get a job by sending your resume through emails; and so if you think you DESERVE to get the job then sacrifice part of your time in visiting these schools.  By personally inquiring and/or submitting your resume, the employer might give you the INTERVIEW right there and then...and who knows?? may be even the JOB! ( I got my present job when I visited the school. I called them up and told them that I'm submitting my resume personally ( esp. when your residence is near the prospect school).  I had the chance to talk to the HEAD herself and  we talked for hours... and right there and then I was asked to report ANYTIME... )

3. Check job ads in BROADSHEET NEWSPAPERS - We all know that MANY Filipino teachers are constantly checking job sites to look for a job.  Honestly, I am one of the MANY Filipinos who send resumes to their emails. However, I noticed that NO SCHOOL EMPLOYER replied me back.  There was ONE six  months ago but that was the SINGLE call I got by applying through that famous site. My two previous jobs ( Thongsook College and Mae Fah Luang University) placed their ADS in one of the national newspapers in Thailand..and you know the rest of the story... )

so there....I hope I have given you some useful tips 

[ajarn_ph]

thanks for your tips, erick!

Filipino teachers who work full-time are usually paid with fixed salary. Most of them don't have more benefits, they have more classes.

[erick]

thanks for your tips, erick!

Filipino teachers who work full-time are usually paid with fixed salary. Most of them don't have more benefits, they have more classes.

how did you know?

[ajarn_ph]

by survey. you can try.

[erick]

by survey. you can try.

See this is exactly what I am talking about.  If your generalization came from a SURVEY then the HOW and WHY should have been given more attention.

Now, please tell us the "HOW" of your survey.

 

[ajarn_ph]

when you keep asking questions, you seems to be not knowing anything at all. i will not go outside the topic and survey is to take a general view of Pinoy Teachers.
i will be very happy to hear feedback from Pinoy Teachers who get more benefits in Thailand.

[lengradwilson]

by survey. you can try.

See this is exactly what I am talking about.  If your generalization came from a SURVEY then the HOW and WHY should have been given more attention.

Now, please tell us the "HOW" of your survey.

 

Oh! oh!.... When other forumers say the other way, they would ask how and must be substantiated with evidence (facts).... Yeah, they're right, they also have a survey during the conference with thirty or less participants, and that number represents the Filipino teachers in Thailand....

Anyways, for a Filipino teacher to find a better job with more benefits, he should first make good of himself, and then ASK...ASK...ASK....  Actually, a Masters diploma is a plus factor, and the way you carry your self counts....

[Sayang-Pinoy]

 I got my present job when I visited the school. I called them up and told them that I'm submitting my resume personally ( esp. when your residence is near the prospect school).  I had the chance to talk to the HEAD herself and  we talked for hours... and right there and then I was asked to report ANYTIME... )

Galing mo nmn sir.Turuan mo nmn kami ng power n yan. Super pinoy ka sir. mabuhay ka.

BAKA NMN KC SIR E KININDATAN MO YUNG DIRECTOR. hihihihihi

[ajarn_ph]

Pinoy Teachers may often come early to school and leave late, nothing much will happen in getting benefits or receiving a raise of salary or hourly rate. However, teachers must come to school on time and not late very often because it is duty. I knew a few Pinoy Teachers who stayed near the school and they came to school late very often.