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« Reply #80 on: November 24, 2008, 09:34:28 AM »

We need to look at things in a square perspective; and definitely, hearsays are not so much reliable source of information.

Even if it could be true that some Philippines have this nose-up attitude towards their Thai colleagues, it cannot be denied that there are more numbers of Thai colleagues who look down on us.  This is the truth regarding the discrimination looming around in the teaching labor market.  It wouldn’t be there if Thai administrators recognize no discrimination policy, but the truth is it is there, in their minds and a lot. 

What is just ironic is, when we try to prove our worth more than the other nationalities, yes, they give their regard; but that regard alone is not even sufficient to free a Philippine from the discrimination.  It stays there and we feel it in different forms.  In my case, I seem to have the “it factor”; but did it provide cushion?  Sad to say, no! Not at all!  In the long run, even if I have proven myself on top of the profession, I still feel discriminated in a way because the eyes of many are with me.  It is as if every satang I am receiving should be all worthy.  How many times have I felt that even my intellectual properties are being subjected to abuse? 

The only good thing is not all my Thai colleagues let me feel that way; but the powers that be, trust me, they seem to have one mind – no matter what you do and no matter how you speak the native twang.


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« Reply #81 on: November 25, 2008, 01:03:31 AM »

Actually, marami sa ating ganyan. Feeling nila na mas magaling silang mag-Ingles sa mga Thai. Pero ang binabasehan ng Thai as correct English is British English. Ang ating American English ay itinuturing na inferior sa British English.

Marami tayong pinipintasan sa bansang ito. Hindi kasi familiar. Kapag narinig mo ang mga pintas ng mga Thai na nag-aral sa Araneta, CLSU, UPLB, Mapua etc. baka himatayin ka rin.

Kaya siguro partly culture shock na yan.

Di ako may sabi nito ha. Kwento lang to ng ibang teachers sa akin. Meron daw mga pinoy dito, lalo na daw yung mga bago pa lang, parang feeling superior daw. Yun bang akala mo mas magaling sila lagi. Lalo na daw in regards sa mga Thai counterparts nila.

Tsaka tama yung isa. Masyadong i-snob ang pinoy sa kapwa pinoy. Di ko alam kung kinakahiya nila ang ibang pinoy or what.
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« Reply #82 on: November 29, 2008, 10:25:41 AM »

Any Filipino traits you observed that you wanted to see some changes. Grin

I have observed this for a long time now and I think dapat baguhin ito ng Pinoy dahil nakakahiya na.

There are some Filipinos, maging OFW, executive, manager, teacher, etc. man sila, na kapag bumibisita or magtrabaho sa ibang bansa, they either loudly make fun of, or complain about how it's hard to understand their language, or sometimes just become rude or angry because "they don't understand English".

One guy I was travelling with tried to communicate with a woman who was selling homemade food. After they talked, and as the woman walked away, tumawa ng malakas ang taong ito within earshot of the woman. He mimicked her tone [Chinese po yung babae] and thought she was really funny. Another time I was a guest in a party ng mga lokal; siyempre salita nila during the party was local language. May isang Pinoy dun who I didn't know, instead of just being quiet and respectful and just thankful na pinapakain kami, loudly mimicked the tone and accent of the speaker. This person had the gall to say out loud in the local language "di ko maintindihan", as if expecting everyone na magkagulo dahil di niya maintindihan ang sinasabi. Akala ng mga ito ay nakakatawa sila.

One huge "DUH" to those people! As in "hello" talaga ang mga ito.

If we keep this up, we will be no different from those loud, arrogant farangs who throw their weight around and expect to be accommodated just because they are white. Can we all just get a grip? We are guests in this country, tayo ang dapat umunawa sa kanilang salita, not the other way around.
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« Reply #83 on: November 29, 2008, 02:35:31 PM »

^^^pansin ko rin yan BP.

gusto kong mag-disappear tuwing nangyayari yang ganyan... minsan pa ginagamit na sukatan ng iba ang "talino" ng tao sa abilidad niya sa pagsalita ng wikang ingles.  papano nga kung ang ibang tao e hindi nakapag-aral ng ingles?!  one time, birthday party ng kasama kong pinoy na engineer at naimbitahan ung mga boss naming hapon.. so kwento-kwento, chika-chika, bigla na lang tong 1 pinay ajarn na kapitbahay namin bumulalas na 'ang bobobo naman ng mga boss niyong hapon, barok-barok mag-english!!'  sabay tawa na ginagaya yung accent... ung kausap niya mayroong master's degree sa structural engineering mula sa university of stuttgart, duh?

the gall of this particular 'ajarn' who speaks english with a very thick bisayan accent! *eyes rollin*  no disrespect to bisdaks here ok, i'm just saying..

and, wait til you hear her speak isan thai.   'sabai deh booo?'  arai na? 'sabai deh booo?'  pasa arai kani ah?  'i'm spicking in esan, how are yo mooroon!'
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« Reply #84 on: November 30, 2008, 04:30:06 AM »

Kahit pa totoo na mas magaling tayong magsalita ng Ingles kesa sa mga tagarito o mga ibang taga-Asya na kagaya natin, hindi reason yun para tayo mang alipusta ng iba. Sa totoo lang, accent naman natin, generally, Pinoy pa rin...
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Most of the time, I see this trait sa mga bagong saltang PInoy sa Thailand. Sa totoo lang, gano'n din kasi ako noon. LOL

Kaya next time na feel nating pagtawanan ang iba dahil sa kanilang Ingles, mag-isip muna tayo po!  Ingat

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« Reply #85 on: November 30, 2008, 08:27:26 AM »

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LOL natawa naman ako sa kwento mo, what irony. haaaay, I guess this a bad habit we bring with us from back home kung saan pinagtatawanan natin ang iba't ibang regional accents from LuzViMinda. not to boast pero I've never found regional accents something to laugh at, only because I was exposed to a wide variety of Philippine dialects and world languages noon pang kabataan ko. I think this is what saved me from this form of bigotry and disrespect. Truth be told I am fascinated by languages and how they evolve over time and place. Others may have never travelled outside their comfort zones, nor met anyone outside their community.

Yes there are some incidental words that are really funny when used in another dialect [ex. "libog" in Visayan = "confusion, while it has a totally different meaning in Tagalog], but equating language proficiency alone with intelligence or personal worth...nakupo.

@ Madam H:

Yes, that was the word I was looking for, "alipusta". Correct again that this is observed among newcomers to any country. It may be a form of social embarassment for the Pinoy, but we are going about this in a very ignorant manner.

I mean, can you imagine someone from Japan coming to the Philippines and jeering us because we don't speak Japanese? I hope Pinoys see the illogic of this.
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